Letters from Tara · July: The Question at the Interview
The draft she did not send
Danya,
I'm still up here. I'm renting a second-year's room in a shared house near the park for July, because she's gone home and I wanted to stay and earn something before second year. It's £95 a week. The house has a garden with one deckchair in it, which everyone takes turns in, and a cat that belongs to nobody.
I've got an interview tomorrow. It's at a bookshop on the hill, the old one with the creaky stairs and the armchair in the window. They need someone for the summer. I walked in last week and asked, which you'll be proud of. The manager is called Niamh and she has very short grey hair and reading glasses on a chain.
If they offer it to me, I'm going to say yes straight away. I really want it. I'll find out the pay and the hours once I've started. It seems rude to ask about money at an interview, as if that's all I care about. They'll tell me eventually. It's a bookshop. It's not like they're going to
The draft stopped there, as all the drafts did.
Tara read it on the deckchair, at about eight in the evening, with the cat that belonged to nobody asleep on her feet.
She noticed something. It was a waiting plan again, but a sneaky one, because it looked like an eager one. Yes straight away. I'll find out once I've started. It meant saying yes to something without knowing what the yes was. And afterwards, asking about money would not be a question. It would be a complaint.
She looked at the sticky note inside the front cover. Six lines.
The cheapest time to say the thing is before there is a plan for it to be against.
Ask on the second day, not the last.
First chance, not last.
A no on the day costs a minute.
The first minute is the cheapest.
You don't have to be sure to ask.
The cheapest moment for this question was obvious. It was the moment before the yes.
She put the draft in the back of the notebook. There were eleven now.
The armchair in the window
The interview was in the back room, among boxes of second-hand paperbacks waiting to be priced. Niamh made tea in two mugs that did not match and asked Tara what she liked to read, and what she would say to someone who came in wanting a present for an uncle they didn't know very well, and whether she minded getting dusty.
Tara said history, and ask what he does on a Sunday, and no.
Niamh laughed at the Sunday one. She wrote something on a pad. Then she put the pen down.
"Well," she said. "I'd like to offer it to you. Can you start Monday?"
Tara felt the yes arrive in her mouth, fully formed, the way it always did. She held it there for a second.
She had practised the next bit on the walk up the hill, out loud, which had worried a man with a dog.
"Thank you," she said. "I'd really like to. Before I say yes, can I ask how many hours a week it is, and what the pay is?"
It came out plainer than she had practised. It also sounded completely fine.
Twelve hours
"Of course," said Niamh, as if it were the most normal question in the world, which it was. "Eleven pounds an hour. Twelve hours a week. Saturdays, nine till five, and Thursday mornings."
Tara did the sum in her head, the way she had done every sum this year. Twelve hours at eleven pounds. A hundred and thirty-two pounds a week. The room was ninety-five. That left thirty-seven pounds a week for food, and the bus, and everything else.
It was not quite enough. She had a little left from the deposit, but she had promised herself she would not touch that.
"That's really helpful," she said. "Is there any chance of a few more hours? Sixteen would make it work for me. I could do Thursday afternoons too, or a Wednesday."
She waited for Niamh to look disappointed.
Niamh did not look disappointed. She looked at her pad.
"Sixteen's fine," she said. "Thursdays all day. Actually that helps me. I've been doing Thursday afternoons on my own." She wrote it down. "Can I tell you something? The student I had last summer said yes the moment I offered. Didn't ask a thing. I'd only got him down for six hours, because that was all I needed then. He found out on his first payday, and he was too embarrassed to say anything, and two weeks later he just stopped coming in. I'd have given him more if he'd asked. I'd much rather know before."
"So would I," said Tara.
"Then yes?" said Niamh.
"Yes," said Tara.
The first Saturday
On her first Saturday a woman came in looking for a present for an uncle she didn't know very well. Tara asked what he did on a Sunday. The woman said he walked, mostly, along canals. Tara found her a book about the canals of the north with old photographs in it, and the woman bought it, and Niamh, who had been listening from the back, raised her reading glasses at her very slightly.
The Friday after, her first payslip came. Sixteen hours, a hundred and seventy-six pounds. She paid the week's rent, bought a proper bag of shopping for the first time since June, and did not touch the deposit money at all. It felt like a small, private victory.
That evening Tara sat in the deckchair and took out the sticky note and a pen. There was just room for one more line at the bottom, if she wrote small.
Ask the question before the yes.
The letter she sent
Danya,
I'm renting a room near the park for July. There's a deckchair and a cat that belongs to nobody.
This month I asked a question before I said yes.
I got offered a job at the bookshop on the hill. I wrote you a whole letter about how I'd say yes straight away and find out the pay and hours once I'd started, because asking about money at an interview felt greedy.
Then I realised I'd be agreeing to something without knowing what it was. And afterwards, the same question would be a complaint.
So when Niamh offered it, I said thank you, and before I say yes, how many hours and what's the pay? Twelve hours at £11 wasn't quite enough for the rent. I asked for sixteen. She said fine, and that it actually helped her.
The student before me said yes without asking, found out he was on six hours, and left after two weeks.
Seven lines on the sticky note now.
Tara
P.S. Eleven drafts. In this one I thought saying yes fast was the polite thing. The polite thing was asking first, so I could keep the yes.
The question for your own table
Is there something you are about to agree to: a job, a commitment, a plan, a favour? What would you want to know before you say yes, and what is the plain sentence that asks it?
Something to do
Next time someone offers you something, say "thank you" first, and then ask the one question you most need answered before you say yes. Notice whether they mind. Usually they don't.
Across the table
The letter in three lines. Tara is offered a summer job in a bookshop. Her plan is to say yes on the spot and find out the pay and hours once she has started, because asking about money feels greedy. Instead she asks before she says yes, finds that twelve hours would not cover her rent, and agrees sixteen with a manager who is glad she asked.
One question to ask. "Why is a question easier to ask before you say yes than after?"
One thing to do at the table. Think of a yes you might say soon: a job, a club, a favour, a plan with friends. What would you want to know first, and how would you ask it in one sentence?
The grown-up layer. Before an agreement, asking what it includes is part of making it. Once you have agreed, the same question can sound like going back on your word, and the other side has already planned around your yes. People who are about to hire you usually expect the question, and asking it plainly shows you have thought about whether you can keep the promise.
The Honest Page
- Known. July was named by the Roman Senate in honour of Julius Caesar in 44 BC. Before that it was called Quintilis, the fifth month of a calendar that started in March. (source)
- Known. Twelve hours a week at eleven pounds an hour is £132 a week.
- Disputed. Julius Caesar's birthday. The sources give 12 or 13 July, 100 BC, and historians still list both. (source)
- Legend. That if it rains on St Swithun's Day, 15 July, it will rain for forty days. In 1913 a fifteen-hour rainstorm on the day was followed by thirty dry days out of forty. (source)
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